flight turbulence forecast

QF4 turbulence forecast

Qantas · New York (JFK) to Auckland (AKL)

The forecast for its last flight, Tue 3 Nov

We have no upcoming QF4 departure on record, so this is the forecast its most recent flight carried.

Bumpiest stretchModerate

Smooth most of the way, with occasional moderate bumps after takeoff. The belt sign will likely come on.

JFK17:42New York
18h 9m
AKL05:51Auckland
Model run 3 Nov, 18:00 UTC
JFKAKL
SmoothLightModerateSevere The planned route of QF4, coloured stretch by stretch by its forecast.
Bumpiest stretch
Moderate
Flight time
18h 9m
Distance
14,230 km
Cruise altitude
37,000 ft
Weather models
4 blended
Model agreement
High
Aircraft
Boeing 787 Dreamliner

Bumpiness along the flight

Takeoff on the left, landing on the right. The higher the line, the bumpier the air the forecast expects at that moment.

SmoothLightModerateSevere 2h4h6h8h10h12h14h16h Take off Landing

Where, and why

The flight split into stretches: how bumpy each is forecast to be, and what causes it.

Cruise0m – 2h 10mLight

Reported by pilots

A pilot flying this stretch recently radioed in some bumps. That report reaches your crew too, and it is one of the reasons they may pick a different altitude for a smoother ride.

At cruise the air is thin and cold, and most of it is calm. The bumps up here come from the jet stream, a band of fast wind whose edges stir the air, or from waves set off by mountains far below. This forecast shows where those edges are.

Cruise2h 10m – 3h 19mModerate

Jet-stream wind shear

Where fast air slides over slower air, usually at the edge of the jet stream, the boundary ripples like a flag. It's the most common kind of turbulence, and it's on the crew's charts before departure. When they meet it, they slow to a set turbulence speed and ride it out.

At cruise the air is thin and cold, and most of it is calm. The bumps up here come from the jet stream, a band of fast wind whose edges stir the air, or from waves set off by mountains far below. This forecast shows where those edges are.

Cruise3h 18m – 14h 51mSmooth

Nothing significant forecast here.

At cruise the air is thin and cold, and most of it is calm. The bumps up here come from the jet stream, a band of fast wind whose edges stir the air, or from waves set off by mountains far below. This forecast shows where those edges are.

Cruise14h 50m – 16h 17mLight

Jet-stream wind shear

Where fast air slides over slower air, usually at the edge of the jet stream, the boundary ripples like a flag. It's the most common kind of turbulence, and it's on the crew's charts before departure. When they meet it, they slow to a set turbulence speed and ride it out.

At cruise the air is thin and cold, and most of it is calm. The bumps up here come from the jet stream, a band of fast wind whose edges stir the air, or from waves set off by mountains far below. This forecast shows where those edges are.

Cruise16h 17m – 18h 9mSmooth

Nothing significant forecast here.

At cruise the air is thin and cold, and most of it is calm. The bumps up here come from the jet stream, a band of fast wind whose edges stir the air, or from waves set off by mountains far below. This forecast shows where those edges are.

Thunderstorms near the route

Around 2h 1m into the flight the forecast has a thunderstorm on the planned line itself.

The ride line can stay calm with storms nearby. It follows the planned track at cruise height, above most storm tops. Pilots don't fly through storms: the weather radar in the nose shows each one, and the rule is to stay at least 20 nautical miles (about 37 km) away. Usually that means a detour of a few minutes.

The closest of these is within the 20 nm the crew has to keep, so expect a small turn around it. The line on the map is the planned route; the real track will bend around the storm.

in the app

This forecast changes. FlyBud tells you when.

A new weather model run lands every few hours. Add QF4 in FlyBud and you get the full turbulence map along your route, a push when the forecast for your flight changes, live tracking and your flight on the lock screen.

Flight status

The latest QF4 flight on our records, as the airline last reported it.

QF4 · Tue 3 NovCancelled
Departs · JFK
17:42
New York
Arrives · AKL
05:51
Auckland

Last update 2 days ago

Gate changes, delays and the baggage belt, pushed to your phone as they happen.

The aircraft

What QF4 is flown with, and how it handles bumpy air.

Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner

Type code
B789
First flew
2009
In service since
2011
Economy seating
3-3-3
Engines
2
Range
15,370 km
Cabin pressure equal to
6,000 ft

Bigger and heavier aircraft are moved less by the same patch of air, and every airliner is designed for much stronger turbulence than it will meet.

Boeing 787 Dreamliner safety record →

The airline

Qantas

Flying since
1920
Alliance
Oneworld
Hubs
Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Perth
Country
Australia

Qantas safety record →

on your lock screen

QF4 without unlocking your phone

Gate, delay, time to landing and the next bumpy stretch, on the lock screen from boarding to the baggage belt.

The route

New York (JFK) → Auckland (AKL)

Distance
14,230 km
Flight time
18h 9m
Usual departure
17:42 local
Usual arrival
05:51 local

Forecast any other route →

Recent QF4 flights

The forecast each flight carried, and how it ran.

DateAircraftForecastHow it ran
Tue 3 Nov 787 Moderate Cancelled

What each level feels like

Smooth
Calm air. Nothing to notice beyond the hum of the engines.
Light
Gentle ripples and the odd dip. Drinks stay put, and walking to the toilet is fine.
Moderate
Clear bumps. Drinks may slosh and the belt sign comes on. Uncomfortable, but the pilots stay in full control.
Severe
Strong jolts, and loose items can move. This is rare, and it's why the belt sign exists. Crews slow down and change altitude to get out of it.

How this forecast is made

The planned route is sampled from gate to gate at the altitude the aircraft flies, through 4 independent global weather models, and corrected with turbulence reports radioed in by pilots in the last few hours. Each new model run replaces the forecast; nothing here is a guess from the airline's history.

The independent weather models behind this forecast agree on this ride.

Planned route · timing and conditions may change.

the live map

Watch the air along the route move

The app draws the route of QF4 over the moving forecast: bumpy air, storms and the winds at cruise height. Scrub through the flight hour by hour.

Why turbulence isn't dangerous

Aircraft are designed for much worse.

Airliners are tested to loads well beyond anything turbulence produces. The wings are meant to flex, so seeing them move is normal.

Crews know where it is.

Your crew has forecasts like this one, live reports from other pilots and their own weather radar, and they change altitude to stay out of bumpy air.

Keep your belt on.

Almost all turbulence injuries happen to people who are standing or not buckled in. Seated with your belt on, turbulence is uncomfortable but not dangerous.

Is turbulence dangerous? The long answer →

Questions about QF4

Will QF4 be bumpy?

Forecasts for QF4 open about three days before departure. Until then no weather model reaches far enough ahead to say anything honest about the ride.

What plane flies QF4?

Recently QF4 has been flown with: Boeing 787 Dreamliner. Airlines can swap the aircraft until shortly before departure.

How long is QF4?

About 18h 9m gate to gate from New York to Auckland, a distance of about 14,230 km.

What time does QF4 leave?

QF4 usually departs New York at 17:42 local time and arrives in Auckland at 05:51 local time. Times change; the app tracks the live schedule.

Is turbulence dangerous on QF4?

Turbulence is uncomfortable, not dangerous to the aircraft. Airliners are certified for loads far beyond anything turbulence produces, and crews plan around the bumpy patches with the same kind of forecast as this one. Injuries are almost always to people who were standing or unbuckled, so keep your seatbelt fastened whenever you're seated.

How accurate is this turbulence forecast?

It is a forecast, so it is best within a day or so of departure and improves with every model run. The bumpy patches it finds are usually in the right place, but their timing can shift by a few minutes and the crew may change altitude to avoid them, so the ride you get is often smoother than the forecast.

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