flight turbulence forecast

KE17 turbulence forecast

Korean Air · Seoul (ICN) to Los Angeles (LAX)

Next departure at its usual time · Sun 8 Nov, 14:30 Seoul time

This date's schedule isn't confirmed yet. This is the air KE17 flies through if it leaves at its usual time.

Bumpiest stretchLight

Smooth most of the way, with some light bumps after takeoff. Barely moves your drink.

ICN14:30Seoul
11h
LAX08:30Los Angeles
Model run 6 Nov, 12:00 UTC · checked just now
ICNLAX
SmoothLightModerateSevere The planned route of KE17, coloured stretch by stretch by its forecast.
Bumpiest stretch
Light
Flight time
11h
Distance
9,626 km
Cruise altitude
37,000 ft
Weather models
3 blended
Model agreement
High
Aircraft
Boeing 747

Bumpiness along the flight

Takeoff on the left, landing on the right. The higher the line, the bumpier the air the forecast expects at that moment.

SmoothLightModerateSevere 2h4h6h8h10h Take off Landing

Where, and why

The flight split into stretches: how bumpy each is forecast to be, and what causes it.

Cruise0m – 2h 10mLight

Jet-stream wind shear

Where fast air slides over slower air, usually at the edge of the jet stream, the boundary ripples like a flag. It's the most common kind of turbulence, and it's on the crew's charts before departure. When they meet it, they slow to a set turbulence speed and ride it out.

At cruise the air is thin and cold, and most of it is calm. The bumps up here come from the jet stream, a band of fast wind whose edges stir the air, or from waves set off by mountains far below. This forecast shows where those edges are.

Cruise2h 10m – 11hSmooth

Nothing significant forecast here.

At cruise the air is thin and cold, and most of it is calm. The bumps up here come from the jet stream, a band of fast wind whose edges stir the air, or from waves set off by mountains far below. This forecast shows where those edges are.

Thunderstorms near the route

Between 3h 19m and 7h 41m into the flight the forecast has a few thunderstorms, the nearest about 60 km from the planned line.

The ride line can stay calm with storms nearby. It follows the planned track at cruise height, above most storm tops. Pilots don't fly through storms: the weather radar in the nose shows each one, and the rule is to stay at least 20 nautical miles (about 37 km) away. Usually that means a detour of a few minutes.

The ride line stays calm here because the route as planned keeps its distance from them.

in the app

This forecast changes. FlyBud tells you when.

A new weather model run lands every few hours. Add KE17 in FlyBud and you get the full turbulence map along your route, a push when the forecast for your flight changes, live tracking and your flight on the lock screen.

Flight status

The latest KE17 flight on our records, as the airline last reported it.

KE17 · Sun 11 OctArrived · 33 min early
Departs · ICN
14:27
Scheduled 14:30 · Terminal 2
Arrives · LAX
09:07
Scheduled 09:40 · Terminal B

Last update 26 days ago

Gate changes, delays and the baggage belt, pushed to your phone as they happen.

The aircraft

What KE17 is flown with, and how it handles bumpy air.

Boeing 747

Type code
B747
Seats on this flight
368

Bigger and heavier aircraft are moved less by the same patch of air, and every airliner is designed for much stronger turbulence than it will meet.

The airline

Korean Air

Flying since
1969
Alliance
SkyTeam
Hubs
Seoul Incheon, Seoul Gimpo
Country
South Korea

Korean Air safety record →

on your lock screen

KE17 without unlocking your phone

Gate, delay, time to landing and the next bumpy stretch, on the lock screen from boarding to the baggage belt.

The route

Seoul (ICN) → Los Angeles (LAX)

Distance
9,626 km
Flight time
11h
Usual departure
14:30 local
Usual arrival
08:30 local

Forecast any other route →

Recent KE17 flights

The forecast each flight carried, and how it ran.

DateAircraftForecastHow it ran
Sun 11 Oct B747 Moderate 33 min early

What each level feels like

Smooth
Calm air. Nothing to notice beyond the hum of the engines.
Light
Gentle ripples and the odd dip. Drinks stay put, and walking to the toilet is fine.
Moderate
Clear bumps. Drinks may slosh and the belt sign comes on. Uncomfortable, but the pilots stay in full control.
Severe
Strong jolts, and loose items can move. This is rare, and it's why the belt sign exists. Crews slow down and change altitude to get out of it.

How this forecast is made

The planned route is sampled from gate to gate at the altitude the aircraft flies, through 3 independent global weather models, and corrected with turbulence reports radioed in by pilots in the last few hours. Each new model run replaces the forecast; nothing here is a guess from the airline's history.

The independent weather models behind this forecast agree on this ride.

Planned route · timing and conditions may change.

the live map

Watch the air along the route move

The app draws the route of KE17 over the moving forecast: bumpy air, storms and the winds at cruise height. Scrub through the flight hour by hour.

Why turbulence isn't dangerous

Aircraft are designed for much worse.

Airliners are tested to loads well beyond anything turbulence produces. The wings are meant to flex, so seeing them move is normal.

Crews know where it is.

Your crew has forecasts like this one, live reports from other pilots and their own weather radar, and they change altitude to stay out of bumpy air.

Keep your belt on.

Almost all turbulence injuries happen to people who are standing or not buckled in. Seated with your belt on, turbulence is uncomfortable but not dangerous.

Is turbulence dangerous? The long answer →

Questions about KE17

Will KE17 be bumpy?

For the flight on Sun 8 Nov: Smooth most of the way, with some light bumps after takeoff. Barely moves your drink. The forecast is replaced with every new weather model run, so check back closer to departure.

What plane flies KE17?

Recently KE17 has been flown with: B747. Airlines can swap the aircraft until shortly before departure.

How long is KE17?

About 11h gate to gate from Seoul to Los Angeles, a distance of about 9,626 km.

What time does KE17 leave?

KE17 usually departs Seoul at 14:30 local time and arrives in Los Angeles at 08:30 local time. Times change; the app tracks the live schedule.

Is turbulence dangerous on KE17?

Turbulence is uncomfortable, not dangerous to the aircraft. Airliners are certified for loads far beyond anything turbulence produces, and crews plan around the bumpy patches with the same kind of forecast as this one. Injuries are almost always to people who were standing or unbuckled, so keep your seatbelt fastened whenever you're seated.

How accurate is this turbulence forecast?

It is a forecast, so it is best within a day or so of departure and improves with every model run. The bumpy patches it finds are usually in the right place, but their timing can shift by a few minutes and the crew may change altitude to avoid them, so the ride you get is often smoother than the forecast.

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